Why We Started Our Own Companies: Interview with Keita Suzuki, a Former Japanese National Football Team Member, and SMBC Intrapreneurs

Hidekazu Sugimoto and Hanano Yokokawa, SMBC Group employees, started their internal corporate ventures to provide non-financial services. Keita Suzuki, a retired professional football player, set up AuB, a bio-venture firm that studies the intestinal bacteria of athletes.

The three of them have the common experience of starting a business in a different field from their previous careers.

Why did they venture into a new territory? They discussed their motivations and the lessons they have learned from entering a new industry.

From Banker to CEO: Reasons behind Starting a Company

Hidekazu Sugimoto is the President and CEO of SMBC Wevox, Inc. After graduating from Kobe University, he joined Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation in 2010. He was engaged in corporate banking, serving medium-sized companies, was in charge of the retail industry, and, at Tokyo Corporate Banking Department III of the Bank’s head office, he handled relationship management aimed at major companies. Then, he was temporarily assigned to the president’s office of Fast Retailing Co., Ltd in 2021. He returned to the Bank’s Digital Strategy Department in February 2023, and led the SMBC Wevox project. He became President and CEO of SMBC Wevox, a new in-house venture company, in October 2023.

Mr. Sugimoto, you set up SMBC Wevox, a joint venture, in October 2023, and Ms. Yokokawa, you launched SMBC Family Works in April 2022. What was it that led to your starting these companies?

Sugimoto

I joined Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation as a new graduate and was engaged in relationship management for major clients at the head office’s corporate banking department. The workplace was much like what you see in "Naoki Hanzawa" (the famous Japanese TV drama about the competitive, hierarchical world of banking).

I was primarily responsible for serving clients to help them expand their businesses and find business opportunities. I built my career as a banker through this experience.

After that, I was seconded to the president’s office of Fast Retailing. Throughout these career experiences, I always felt the importance of creating a good organizational foundation.

However good a company’s business or product may be, things will not go well if there are problems in its workplace organization or culture. So I came to harbor the desire to help companies make their organization and business work as two drivers of growth. When I came back to the SMBC Group in 2023 after finishing the secondment, I set up SMBC Wevox, a joint venture with Atrae, Inc., to operate a digital platform for strengthening organizational capabilities.

Wevox is a platform for boosting organizational strength using surveys centered around engagement. Its support for organizations goes beyond just “measuring” and focuses on promoting “awareness” within them. Over 3,140 organizations have introduced the platform. The service has been adopted not only in the business field but also in in the areas of sports and education.
Yokokawa

I joined a branch office of SMBC as a new graduate, where I provided individual customers with support and assistance with their challenges and concerns.

As I provided consultation on various issues of household finance, ranging from managing assets to inheritance to financing education, I had many opportunities to listen to their worries over their family members’ health and money, for example, about whether a family member living far away is leading a healthy lifestyle, or whether a family member might become a victim of “special fraud” (A scam in Japan where imposters trick people, often elderly persons, over the phone or by mail to steal their money or valuables.).

Later, I was reassigned to a product development department and participated in the era of 100-year lifetimes project. In the project, we considered products that go beyond the boundaries of finance so that the SMBC Group can address social issues arising in the era of 100-year lifetimes.

Hanano Yokokawa is President and CEO of SMBC Family Works. She joined Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation in 2009. After providing advisory services to retail customers at a branch office, she was reassigned to a department developing products for retail customers, such as asset management and inheritance products. Then, she was again engaged in retail customer consultation as a manager at a branch office before being assigned to the Life Shift Solution Department in October 2021. In April 2022, she became the first female president of a SMBC subsidiary, when she was appointed president of SMBC Family Works.

Various issues became clearer through my discussions with customers. For example, in Japan, children often live apart from their parents once they move out, and though they want to prepare for the future, they don’t know how to go about it.

To solve such social issues, I launched SMBC Family Works, hoping to support families in various aspects so that they can live enriched lives.

SMBC Family Works’ app Family Network Service handles the themes of money, health, and life, and has functions that enable family members to share information.

It Would be a Shame Not to Venture into a New Industry

You retired as a professional football player, entered the healthcare industry, and became an entrepreneur.

Suzuki

I had a long career as an athlete because I was able to stay healthy. I was especially mindful of maintaining gut health, and I thought I could use the knowledge I gained through my efforts to contribute to society.

Originally, I hadn’t intended to become a company president after retirement. I could have done something by being directly involved in football. But I thought it would be a shame not to venture into a new industry, and I wanted to be of help to local communities.

If I could succeed in enriching people’s lives through the widespread use of athlete health data, ultimately, I think I could also give something back to the world of football. This is my thought behind running my business.

Former professional football player Keita Suzuki is CEO of AuB. He joined Urawa Reds in J. League after graduating high school. He played in the team until he retired in the 2015 season. He was selected as a member of the Japan national team in 2006—the only player who started all games during Ivica Osim’s spell as Japan’s head coach. His own experience led him to focus on intestinal bacteria and set up AuB. His business researches intestinal bacteria to help athletes and ordinary people maintain good health and improve performance.
Yokokawa

Our businesses have the same goal of helping people live more fruitful lives.

Suzuki

Healthy living is the foundation of our daily lives. We take it for granted when we are doing all right. Some people come to realize the importance of maintaining good health only after ill health has forced them to change their lifestyles.

In that sense, I’m fascinated by Mr. Sugimoto’s business, which measures organizational capabilities to make improvements, and Ms. Yokokawa’s business, which visualizes risks in life and makes suggestions accordingly.

Is It True That Banking Is Old-fashioned, Rigid, and Unchanging?

It’s interesting that all of you ventured into new fields.

Sugimoto

Japan has many professionals who create businesses, but not so many who work on organization.

I thought that bankers could contribute more to the growth of clients’ businesses if they could make proposals on organizational development in addition to business development.

Many companies up until now seem to have left the organizational aspects of their business largely to their HR departments.

With a conviction that this is a business essential for current and future Japan, I started my business six months after internally proposing the plan. This is close to the fastest launch of a joint venture between companies listed on the Prime Market of the Tokyo Stock Exchange, and I’m proud of that.

Founded SMBC Wevox in October 2023, six months after proposal
Suzuki

That’s really fast. I’m surprised because I imagined that it would take time to obtain internal approval at banks. I thought banks were more inflexible.

Sugimoto

I know. That’s a comment I often get (laughs). Our efforts to enter non-financial business exist because our previous CEO Jun Ohta widely promoted the message of “Break the mold.”

People often tell me that they see banking as an old, rigid, and unchangeable industry. But the SMBC Group has a fledgling bottom-up culture that encourages junior employees to bring in ideas. This led to an increase in cases of internal corporate ventures like ours.

To “produce new CEOs,” our top management instantly gives a green light to interesting ideas that could develop into new business pillars. In fact, SMBC has already launched around 10 internal corporate ventures.

SMBC Group holds monthly meetings to make decisions on new businesses, which is presided over by the Chief Digital Innovation Officer (CDIO). It’s a venue like a training gym for “breaking the mold,” where junior employees can pitch their ideas for new businesses directly to supervisors. Sugimoto presented his vision at one of the meetings. Sugimoto says, “Top management said that there was no reason not to try and I should immediately start working on it. They gave me the green light on the spot.”
Suzuki

It seems that there is growing momentum in the SMBC Group for nurturing intrapreneurs.

Sugimoto

I think the Mitsui and Sumitomo families that started their banks more than 100 years ago were groups of intrapreneurs in the first place. In that sense, our group surely is rooted in innovative spirit.

Yokokawa

I agree with you. I often get a sense of our corporate culture of taking on a challenge, and of implementing ideas speedily ahead of competitors.

I think that our group has set up a series of non-financial businesses because we have the culture of not sticking to the traditional concept of banking.

It was also very reassuring that the CEO and others in top management directly gave me words of encouragement.

Suzuki

But didn’t you face any pushback against venturing into a new field?

Sugimoto

I receive all sorts of opinions. I think the key is to respect the history of the bank. We can step out of our comfort zone with the utmost respect to the people, things, and experiences that have shaped the SMBC Group. I think that our company will give us as many opportunities as we need if we firmly believe that what we do will benefit our customers.

The SMBC Group has an internal social network called Midori no Hiroba (meaning “green plaza”) where anyone can post an idea or information on a daily basis. Over 50,000 employees have joined it and are open-mindedly exchanging views and interacting with each other.

Ending Japan’s Lost Three Decades

How have you changed since starting your company?

Yokokawa

As a person in a responsible position, I’m constantly thinking how I can keep confronting issues head-on and make improvements. There are many difficult problems, but now I feel even more strongly that I must lead by example.

Sugimoto

I became more honest with myself. SMBC Wevox has a vision of contributing to the development of the Japanese economy and making the country proud of its place in the world.

The point is to make the country “proud.” As a millennial, I’m serious about ending Japan’s so-called three lost decades.

Suzuki

That’s the sort of thing we tend to lose sight of in a big company. Did you come to notice that you have that passion because you were seconded outside the company?

Sugimoto

It could be part of the reason. The secondment experience made me realize how green my company’s grass was.

People join SMBC with aspirations. The bank really has many competent and ambitious people.

I made up my mind to set up an internal corporate venture to make Japan a better place, for which I got permission from the management. The next day, I quickly made moves to ask an employee well-versed in laws, one competent in system development, and others in the bank to join my team. I’m blessed with enthusiastic and capable team members who share my passion.

Suzuki

I envy you! I’m now rebuilding my company’s organization, and the process has made me keenly aware that an organization cannot progress beyond the quality of its top management. That said, an organization doesn’t function solely with the leadership of a single individual.

It’s similar to football. The mere addition of one superstar doesn’t make a winning team. For the star to shine, the team must have a good foundation and tactics, as well as teammates who can make a good pass to him. Organizational capabilities matter. The most important basis for a team is whether its members share a vision. I was under the impression that bankers are businesslike and unemotional. So I was a little surprised to know that you are so passionate.

What will be your next moves?

Sugimoto

According to Gallup’s 2022 State of the Global Workplace report, only about 5% of employees in Japan are "engaged" in their work. However, this can also be seen as an opportunity to increase engagement by 95%.

I think Japan, which grew as a manufacturing superpower, has a great potential to develop as a powerhouse of organizational development.

Japan can grow further if it leverages its operational strengths and puts into practice the innovative ideas that come out of stronger organizational capabilities. I would like to support this by providing relevant services.

Yokokawa

We will remain responsive to the evolving needs of customers, offering solutions to social issues by leveraging our financial strengths across a broad range of services, including those outside of finance.

In addition, based on my personal experiences, I would like to create services that will enable not only two generations of parents and children but also the generation of grandchildren to connect in a fun way so that they can live richer and happier lives.

Suzuki

AuB is in its nineth year of operation, but we still haven’t fully conveyed the importance of gut health. I would like to promote more of Japan's wonderful traditions, such as our fermented food culture, on a global scale.

Like you, I see the significance of launching businesses from Japan, a country seen as experiencing difficult problems ahead of other nations. Like you, I see the significance of launching businesses from Japan, made me think that our businesses could do something in collaboration. Let’s do our best. I’m looking forward to seeing future developments of your companies.

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SPEAKER BIO
* The departments, titles, etc. of the people introduced in this story are as of the time of writing.
  • President and CEO of SMBC Wevox, Inc.

    Hidekazu Sugimoto

    After graduating from Kobe University, he joined Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation in 2010. He was engaged in corporate banking, serving medium-sized companies, was in charge of the retail industry, and, at Tokyo Corporate Banking Department III of the Bank’s head office, he handled relationship management aimed at major companies. Then, he was temporarily assigned to the president’s office of Fast Retailing Co., Ltd in 2021. He returned to the Bank’s Digital Strategy Department in February 2023, and led the SMBC Wevox project. He became President and CEO of SMBC Wevox, a new in-house venture company, in October 2023.

  • President and CEO of SMBC Family Works

    Hanano Yokokawa

    She joined Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation in 2009. After providing advisory services to retail customers at a branch office, she was reassigned to a department developing products for retail customers, such as asset management and inheritance products. Then, she was again engaged in retail customer consultation as a manager at a branch office before being assigned to the Life Shift Solution Department in October 2021. In April 2022, she became the first female president of a SMBC subsidiary, when she was appointed president of SMBC Family Works.

  • CEO of AuB

    Keita Suzuki

    Former professional football player. He joined Urawa Reds in J. League after graduating high school. He played in the team until he retired in the 2015 season. He was selected as a member of the Japan national team in 2006—the only player who started all games during Ivica Osim’s spell as Japan’s head coach. His own experience led him to focus on intestinal bacteria and set up AuB. His business researches intestinal bacteria to help athletes and ordinary people maintain good health and improve performance.