SMBC Group and Atrae Join Forces on SMBC Wevox (Part 1):Boosting Organizational Capabilities and Corporate Value

In October 2023, the SMBC Group and Atrae set up a joint venture aimed at improving companies’ organizational capabilities and increasing corporate value, and launched SMBC Wevox, a digital solution designed for that purpose.

What attracted the SMBC Group to this area, and what’s the story behind the joint venture? We’re also intrigued by the new operation’s vision of making Japan a country to be proud of.

In this series, we get the inside story on SMBC Wevox from founder Hidekazu Sugimoto—who is also vice president from the SMBC Group’s Digital Strategy Department—and Atrae’s sales manager for Wevox, Shu Kawamoto. Part 1 focuses on how an encounter between this pair sparked the new company, delving into their passion for enhancing organizational capabilities.

SERIES: SMBC Group and Atrae

  1. SMBC Group and Atrae Join Forces on SMBC Wevox (Part 1):Boosting Organizational Capabilities and Corporate Value
  2. SMBC Group and Atrae Join Forces on SMBC Wevox (Part 2): Improving Organizations and Creating New Value

Brought together by a shared passion for organization-building

How did this joint venture come about?

Sugimoto

It goes back to 2019, when I was looking at how to boost employee engagement and motivation as a way of taking the SMBC Group to the next level. Partly I simply wanted to contribute to the Group and to my colleagues, but I was also in my early 30s and feeling strangely desperate to make a change in the world and make something of myself.

I went along to outside events in search of ideas, and I met Mr. Kawamoto from Atrae at one of them. Listening to his presentation on boosting organizational capabilities, I remember how thrilled I was to realize that here was someone even younger than me who was clearly passionately focused on the organization as an entity. That sense of a kindred spirit deepened when we spoke at the get-together afterwards.

Mr. Kawamoto, what was your impression of Mr. Sugimoto?

Kawamoto

I remember feeling strongly that I wanted to get our services out more to people like him. As a platform for improving organizational capabilities, Atrae’s Wevox is designed to foster workplaces that inspire energy and passion. I really wanted to get Wevox out there more to people like Mr. Sugimoto who are always working for the good of the organization.

Customer support for both their business and their organization

So that encounter was the first step on the road to the new company?

Sugimoto

At that stage, we knew we wanted to do something together, but we hadn’t got as far as a joint venture.

The big shakeup came at the end of 2022, three years after we met. I was on secondment to an outside company but due to go back to SMBC in early 2023. Thinking seriously about what I should do when I got back, I knew that I wanted to become someone who could make the organization better—the same ambition that I’d nursed since I first went out into the job market.

Hidekazu Sugimoto, Vice President, Digital Strategy Department, SMBC Group

In my banking career, I have always worked in finance-based customer support, and I know that I’ve been able to contribute to customers’ business growth. But no matter how great a business model is, it’s ultimately people who drive business growth. I had seen firsthand on many occasions how employee engagement and motivation is directly linked to organizational performance as well as impacting heavily on business performance. I thought that if I could provide support not just from the business side but also the organizational side, I could boost customer growth even further.

And that’s when Mr. Kawamoto’s face sprang to mind. I immediately contacted him to set up a meeting and showed up with a 30-page document into which I’d poured my heart. That’s when I first specifically proposed that we work together to improve Japanese organizations, the idea of a joint venture included. I vividly remember Mr. Kawamoto saying that I’d given him goosebumps! I think this was around mid-January 2023.

Kawamoto

I immediately said that I was in. According to the State of the Global Workplace: 2022 Report, only five percent of Japanese workers feel motivated and engaged at work, which ranks Japan as the lowest of the countries surveyed. And while the global average is rising, in Japan it’s falling. While this may be partly due to different perceptions of work, from a macro perspective, it’s clear that the workplace environment in Japan is less than ideal for its workers.

Shu Kawamoto, Wevox Sales Manager, Atrae, Inc.

I think the reason is that most employees view the jobs that occupy a large portion of their lives as no more than work, and their only goal is to earn as much as they can for the least number of hours. Atrae has sat down with numerous teams and organizations to change that situation, continuing to develop and supply products and services that boost the engagement of each individual worker, facilitate workplace relationships, and improve team performance.

At the same time, because we specialize in approaches to organizations and people, we’ve run into problems in terms of realizing business support along the trajectory of our current activities—the opposite of the SMBC Group, in other words. Recognizing that the organization and business go hand in hand, we were looking for a way to give a real boost to both. When Mr. Sugimoto came to me, I was frankly fascinated. I thought it would be a major challenge, but there was no reason not to take on that challenge.

From concept to company in a blazing six months

What was the process in terms of realizing your joint venture concept?

Sugimoto

When I poured my heart out to Mr. Kawamoto, I still didn’t know what department I would be placed in or what work I would be doing when I went back to SMBC. But I was so set on my idea that I contacted Akio Isowa, who is now the Group’s chief digital innovation officer (CDIO), and explained what I wanted to do. He said that the idea had potential and told me to give it some more thought. When I went back to SMBC in early February, they put me in the Digital Strategy Department, which pursues new business.

A couple of months later, I decided to submit my plan for discussion at the CDIO meeting where they decide whether to invest in new digital businesses, so I made preparations at lightning speed. I gave my presentation at the April CDIO meeting as scheduled, and everyone including Group CEO Jun Ohta agreed that there was no reason not to give it a go and told me to push ahead quickly. And so by July, we were issuing a press release announcing that a basic agreement had been reached.

System to Realize Business Ideas―CDIO Meeting

So you set up a joint venture around six months from the first time you discussed it. How were you able to move so fast?

Sugimoto

Because I was convinced that the market was waiting for the services we would create.

I had right in front of me customers and colleagues who were taking on the challenge of improving their organizations, and there were also so many people who were highly motivated but weren’t able to achieve the results they wanted. So the stage was set, and I just had to hurry up and get started.

Mr. Kawamoto had the same mindset, so we both put everything out on the table—the good, the bad, and the ugly, including the potential losses and gains for both companies—and made the necessary adjustments in the shortest possible time.

The SMBC Group has identified producing new CEOs as one of its goals and has also created many digital subsidiaries. Did that environment have any impact on the establishment of your joint venture?

Sugimoto

I often talked to Hideki Mishima, the CEO of an SMBC Group digital subsidiary called SMBC CLOUDSIGN, about why he wanted to become an intrapreneur within a bank. Banks in fact provide a great foundation for a business in that they have all those professionals across different departments delivering brilliant solutions to numerous business leaders. That was exactly why I had been thinking since around 2019 that I wanted to provide society with new value in some form using the SMBC Group as my foundation. The Group’s policy of proactively elevating young employees into CEO positions was another motivating factor.

Addressing both business and organizational enhancement to create a new standard in corporate value assessment

When a joint venture is set up, aligning the respective visions of the two parent companies can be a challenge. Did you have any issues in that regard?

Sugimoto

Not really, no. When I first went to Mr. Kawamoto, I talked about making Japan a country to be proud of, and that became our vision. We were really already aligned on that vision from the start. We did sit down together to see if we could come up with something better, but we both agreed that we’d got it right the first time, so that’s what we went with.

Because the SMBC Group and Atrae operate in different areas, there are obviously some cultural differences, but we absolutely shared the feeling of wanting to be proud of having been born in Japan and to make Japan a better place, and I think that’s why we were able to agree so readily on a vision.

Kawamoto

I think that sharing the same basic thinking opened the way for a conversation not between the SMBC Group and Atrae but between two like-minded individuals that could have been from the same organization. As you would expect when two completely different companies set up a business together, there were certain details that required discussion, but every time there was a clash, rather than choosing between A or B, we kept inventing new “ultra-C” options that would deliver 110 percent. And that’s how we were able to move so quickly.

What do you want to achieve with the new company?

Sugimoto

A lot of people—myself included—want to help make customers and society better, make their company better, and so on. I want to visualize that passion and the passion of people who want to start something new and provide as much affirmation as I can. The new company will target all individuals and organizations taking up a challenge at their own initiative, regardless of the scale.

Organizations take various forms. Some are pyramids, for example, while others pursue amoeba management. Whatever the form, a good organization is one whose members can boast about. I want to start by creating lots of organizations that can be boasted about, then extend that out to teams, groups, companies, and industries, and, ultimately, fill Japan and the world with good organizations.

Companies are made up of a business component and an organizational component. This is what makes it meaningful for SMBC, a bank, to address organization-building. And if we can visualize corporate engagement—employees’ commitment and passion, etc.—to show how those figures impact sales, we may even be able to create new rules for capitalism. Our aim is to integrate and elevate both business and organizational capabilities so as to create a new standard in corporate value creation, and I think this is something that the combined strengths of organizational wunderkind Atrae and the SMBC Group as a financial giant make us uniquely well-positioned to achieve. I’m looking forward to fusing our passion and resources to realize a worldview that enables everyone to feel engaged in their work, in turn boosting corporate value.

SERIES: SMBC Group and Atrae

  1. SMBC Group and Atrae Join Forces on SMBC Wevox (Part 1):Boosting Organizational Capabilities and Corporate Value
  2. SMBC Group and Atrae Join Forces on SMBC Wevox (Part 2): Improving Organizations and Creating New Value
SPEAKER BIO
* The departments, titles, etc. of the people introduced in this story are as of the time of writing.
  • Wevox Sales Manager, Atrae, Inc.

    Shu Kawamoto

    Graduated from Osaka University and went straight to Atrae while the company was still unlisted. He worked on consulting sales for the IT industry-focused recruitment platform Green, then moved to the organizational capability platform Wevox. He is currently supporting engagement-driven cross-company organizational improvement primarily at major Japanese companies, meeting with over 1,000 CEOs and personnel managers every year. In addition to his usual work, he also handles special projects such as internal value innovation and company-wide communication design. He became executive vice president of SMBC Wevox, Inc. in October 2023.

  • Vice President, Digital Strategy Department, SMBC Group

    Hidekazu Sugimoto

    Graduated from Kobe University and joined SMBC in 2010. After working in corporate banking for medium-ranked companies, wholesale and retail industry-related operations, and banking for corporate majors in the Corporate Banking Department at SMBC’s Head Office, he was seconded to the CEO Office at Fast Retailing in 2021. When he returned to the SMBC Group’s Digital Strategy Department in February 2023, he set up the SMBC Wevox project and led it through to establishment of the new company. In October 2023, he became CEO of SMBC Wevox, Inc. In 2019, he also set up SMBB: Beyond Banker, an in-house volunteer group of young and mid-career employees, planning and promoting offsite meetings with senior management and the introduction of an internal SNS, etc. More than 1,000 businesspeople from inside and outside SMBC have participated in the voluntary events he has planned to date.